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Improve your Avanza stock power and fuel economy.; 100% money back if not satisfied.
Topic Started: Jul 23 2007, 02:21 PM (6,721 Views)
icecube	Jul 23 2007, 02:21 PM Post #1
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	Item(s): Device called mini turbo. Package includes:item and installation. Price:RM150. Warranty: 7 days guarentee money back. Additional to 6 months full one-to-one exchange if faulty. Dealing method: COD at KL/PJ area. Location of seller:KL cheras Contact method/details: NO LONGER AVAILABLE. Age of item:new. Edited by icecube, Sep 6 2009, 11:11 AM.



Der	Jul 23 2007, 02:23 PM Post #2
Der Posts: 4,899 Group: AOCM Member #798 Joined: August 21, 2006	Bro icecube, Did you talk to the Admins and mods first for approval??



icecube	Jul 23 2007, 02:23 PM Post #3
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	Der Jul 23 2007, 02:23 PM Bro icecube, Did you talk to the Admins and mods first for approval?? Yes, I talked to OCmax about it. :D But am i posting in the wrong section? sorry newbie here. :D



seizai	Jul 23 2007, 07:13 PM Post #4
UnWorthY MemBeR Posts: 4,692 Group: AOCM Member #330 Joined: March 12, 2006	wat is this? compressor?



icecube	Jul 23 2007, 07:49 PM Post #5
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	seizai Jul 23 2007, 07:13 PM wat is this? compressor? mini turbo is gadget add to your car to get more mileage and power. its connected between your brake servo and intake manifold thus giving your brake an upgrade (more firmness) and intake more air. The most important is the filter is made from copper brass and long lasting unlike china made compressor. On top of that, there is a 7 days money back if you are not satisfied with the product. 100% amount refund. Its alot of different compare to other china product coz the internal design which can create more pressure into the combustion for more complete burning and thus gives extra power in pick up and acceleration. PM/SMS/Call to look at the actual product and test it in your car, Pay on-the-spot if you are satisfied of the power improvement. Then 7 days for u to monitor your fuel consumption and you can refund if you want to within 7 days 100% amount u paid if it doesnt save you fuel. Kevin 016-6960886.



ocmax	Jul 23 2007, 07:53 PM Post #6
FOrUM ROoT-ADMiN Posts: 13,684 Group: Adminstrator Member #1 Joined: January 15, 2006	icecube Jul 23 2007, 07:49 PM seizai Jul 23 2007, 07:13 PM wat is this? compressor? mini turbo is gadget add to your car to get more mileage and power. its connected between your brake servo and intake manifold thus giving your brake an upgrade (more firmness) and intake more air. The most important is the filter is made from copper brass and long lasting unlike china made compressor. On top of that, there is a 7 days money back if you are not satisfied with the product. 100% amount refund. Its alot of different compare to other china product coz the internal design which can create more pressure into the combustion for more complete burning and thus gives extra power in pick up and acceleration. PM/SMS/Call to look at the actual product and test it in your car, Pay on-the-spot if you are satisfied of the power improvement. Then 7 days for u to monitor your fuel consumption and you can refund if you want to within 7 days 100% amount u paid if it doesnt save you fuel. Kevin 016-6960886. FIY we do not recommand to connect any direct air intake valve to the brake servo because there are cases that it cause the brake servo malfunction. Same goes to those thing like air compressor and air supercharge. Regards, ocmax ;)



icecube	Jul 24 2007, 11:34 AM Post #7
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	Brake servo malfuction is due to wear and tear perviously before fitted mini turbo. And once you fit mini turbo ,due to the extra air pressure and old brake servo (or worn or rusted-almost-leaking servo ) the brake servo will fail. In this situation, removing of the mini turbo will cause the brake to fuction back as normal. And you should bring the car for inspection (brake system). This is a diagnostic tools for your braking system. (Just fit in , and press ur brake, less then 3 min u can tell if your brake system including hoses,pump, caliper piston,fluid leak accour in your car or not). We been thru this before alot of times with different cars and customer. When they bring their car to their regular mechanic, found out fluid hose leaking, caliper piston jammed, brake servo fail, brake pads finish...... after fitted mini turbo for 3 mins only u can tell if your brake is in GOOD condition or ALMOST malfuction brake. Its impossible an air-intake can cause malfuction in less then 3 mins on your car,rite? Minor fluid leak or air leak cant be detected easily,even pressing the brake pedal feels normal. Once u fitted the mini turbo (dunno about other product), u press the pedal and u can actually feels different (depending on fault)... probably it will just go down and not up, or hard like jammed. Then we just take out the mini turbo(and ur brake will back to normal) , and u have to bring ur car for inspection. But it rarely happen. It actually prolong your brake servo pump due to less "working power" is needed from the pump coz the mini turbo is assisting the pump thru the same hose. And very rarely you heard people have brake servo failure (except if u say fitted other gadget that have bad filter unlike the mini turbo).



ocmax	Jul 24 2007, 02:57 PM Post #8
FOrUM ROoT-ADMiN Posts: 13,684 Group: Adminstrator Member #1 Joined: January 15, 2006	icecube Jul 24 2007, 11:34 AM Brake servo malfuction is due to wear and tear perviously before fitted mini turbo. And once you fit mini turbo ,due to the extra air pressure and old brake servo (or worn or rusted-almost-leaking servo ) the brake servo will fail. In this situation, removing of the mini turbo will cause the brake to fuction back as normal. And you should bring the car for inspection (brake system). This is a diagnostic tools for your braking system. (Just fit in , and press ur brake, less then 3 min u can tell if your brake system including hoses,pump, caliper piston,fluid leak accour in your car or not). We been thru this before alot of times with different cars and customer. When they bring their car to their regular mechanic, found out fluid hose leaking, caliper piston jammed, brake servo fail, brake pads finish...... after fitted mini turbo for 3 mins only u can tell if your brake is in GOOD condition or ALMOST malfuction brake. Its impossible an air-intake can cause malfuction in less then 3 mins on your car,rite? Minor fluid leak or air leak cant be detected easily,even pressing the brake pedal feels normal. Once u fitted the mini turbo (dunno about other product), u press the pedal and u can actually feels different (depending on fault)... probably it will just go down and not up, or hard like jammed. Then we just take out the mini turbo(and ur brake will back to normal) , and u have to bring ur car for inspection. But it rarely happen. It actually prolong your brake servo pump due to less "working power" is needed from the pump coz the mini turbo is assisting the pump thru the same hose. And very rarely you heard people have brake servo failure (except if u say fitted other gadget that have bad filter unlike the mini turbo). I have super air charger before, SO I know what an I talking about. Quote: you heard people have brake servo failure (except if u say fitted other gadget that have bad filter unlike the mini turbo). There was a accident due to these gadget that causes the brake servo to jam because of the extra air pressure, If you notice the air hose to the brake servo has a 1 way damper which the air can only go in. If the brake servo is new I think there will be no problem but if the car is too old......I don't think we will advice to take the risk. One more thing VVTI engine is very complicated and even normal SAFC unit will not work with this system. I try to find the post again but forgotten where it is located. btw there is similar product posted here before... http://avanzamalaysia.com/index.php?showtopic=165 http://avanzamalaysia.com/index.php?showtopic=266 ;)



icecube	Jul 24 2007, 05:59 PM Post #9
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	Never tried the super air charger before but i assume its the same as the Micro compressor thingy. I got cheated also with that compressor thing also, its BS. And different shop will install differently on different location. And yes, the brake servo hose have a one way valve thing, that why we never cut the hose. The brake servo could not jam instantly with extra air coz its have a one one valve to close up once the air is filled and pushed down. So like you mention, old car might (or might not due to serviceable/changeable parts) have to avoid installing. But I have alot of saga iswara like 12 years old car have mini turbo inside. Instead, it make their brake firmmer and less wear on the brake pads (review by my customer, he say by the looks of the dust on his bling bling rim ) No problem whatsover like you mention. Probably its some other brand or parts that malfuction due to manufacturing defect (which is not noticeable easily by the naked eyes) thus by fitting something to enchance it, it actually fail. We can detect the failure before it happen, so its actually safer to have mini turbo.



ocmax	Jul 24 2007, 06:08 PM Post #10
FOrUM ROoT-ADMiN Posts: 13,684 Group: Adminstrator Member #1 Joined: January 15, 2006	icecube Jul 24 2007, 05:59 PM Never tried the super air charger before but i assume its the same as the Micro compressor thingy. I got cheated also with that compressor thing also, its BS. And different shop will install differently on different location. And yes, the brake servo hose have a one way valve thing, that why we never cut the hose. The brake servo could not jam instantly with extra air coz its have a one one valve to close up once the air is filled and pushed down. So like you mention, old car might (or might not due to serviceable/changeable parts) have to avoid installing. But I have alot of saga iswara like 12 years old car have mini turbo inside. Instead, it make their brake firmmer and less wear on the brake pads (review by my customer, he say by the looks of the dust on his bling bling rim ) No problem whatsover like you mention. Probably its some other brand or parts that malfuction due to manufacturing defect (which is not noticeable easily by the naked eyes) thus by fitting something to enchance it, it actually fail. We can detect the failure before it happen, so its actually safer to have mini turbo. Those are not VVTI engine maa............. :o btw What I mean you should advice to use the pressure sensor hose instead of brake servo because the intention is to cheat the ECU AFR. For your info.....air super charge comes with 2 valve. It was configure to pressure sensor and brake servo. Not like air compressor which only in 1 unit. ;)



icecube	Jul 26 2007, 11:30 AM Post #11
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	ocmax Jul 24 2007, 06:08 PM For your info.....air super charge comes with 2 valve. It was configure to pressure sensor and brake servo. Not like air compressor which only in 1 unit. ;) Yes there is two location we can fit this device. We have customer fitting on both the brake servo hose with the other breather hose . Well its up to the customer to decide if he/she want to have both power and stopping power or just pure performance. oh the supercharger can fit both places.. i see... thanks i learn something new today.... but the thing need to be tune right? hmm..



ocmax	Jul 26 2007, 12:37 PM Post #12
FOrUM ROoT-ADMiN Posts: 13,684 Group: Adminstrator Member #1 Joined: January 15, 2006	icecube Jul 26 2007, 11:30 AM ocmax Jul 24 2007, 06:08 PM For your info.....air super charge comes with 2 valve. It was configure to pressure sensor and brake servo. Not like air compressor which only in 1 unit. ;) Yes there is two location we can fit this device. We have customer fitting on both the brake servo hose with the other breather hose . Well its up to the customer to decide if he/she want to have both power and stopping power or just pure performance. oh the supercharger can fit both places.. i see... thanks i learn something new today.... but the thing need to be tune right? hmm.. Yes because the vacuum sensor is there and the timing will be affected. That's why it has a valve controller. ;)



icecube	Jul 27 2007, 11:23 AM Post #13
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	I think that is possible . Edited by icecube, Sep 6 2009, 11:10 AM.



vash_h	Jul 27 2007, 11:34 AM Post #14
haroldchia.com Posts: 3,055 Group: AOCM Member #229 Joined: February 13, 2006	why does myvi 1.3 have higher FC than avanza 1.3 even though myvi is FWD, lighter in terms of weight? thts the difference between dvvt and vvti.. i think u need to do some R&D with an avanza before u sell it to hardcore avanza owners like our club members.. if the gadget is so good as mentioned, u can try an R&D with some avanza owners.. if it works.. excellent.. i'll b among the buyers.



ocmax	Jul 27 2007, 01:43 PM Post #15
FOrUM ROoT-ADMiN Posts: 13,684 Group: Adminstrator Member #1 Joined: January 15, 2006	icecube Jul 27 2007, 11:23 AM Then the 1.3cc Avanza will have no problem since its DVVT not VVTI ? :D same engine as the myvi rite? myvi members are pleased with the performance and enhancement it has done. Quite impposible that the Avanza 1.3 will not benefit from it. Do a Dyno test to prove it can work on Avanza to show the result. Is that simple. ;)



thomasllp62	Jul 27 2007, 05:54 PM Post #16
FOrUM Posts: 5,067 Group: Asst Admin Member #10 Joined: January 16, 2006	If it is the same thing like the Superione then i think pls don't waste our time coz if there is any savings at all it will be insignificant .



ongkh	Aug 16 2007, 07:31 AM Post #17
Global Forum Posts: 9,369 Group: Moderator Member #25 Joined: January 16, 2006	maybe he won't come back to add comments anymore....... :unsure :unsure



CELLCOM	Aug 16 2007, 08:14 AM Post #18
Posts: 1,146 Group: Moderator Member #1,341 Joined: January 26, 2007	ongkh Aug 16 2007, 07:31 AM maybe he won't come back to add comments anymore....... :unsure :unsure :lol3: :lol3: agrred wit u bro.... n :tqvm :tqvm to sifu ocmax for the information n sure this sales person now learning that our aocm mezmbers got a very strong people inside :TQ :TQ :TQ



kamalkid	Aug 16 2007, 10:59 AM Post #19
Ai Yam Te Lorrrrr... Posts: 796 Group: AOCM Member #2,029 Joined: May 18, 2007	celcom6162384 Aug 16 2007, 08:14 AM ongkh Aug 16 2007, 07:31 AM maybe he won't come back to add comments anymore....... :unsure :unsure :lol3: :lol3: agrred wit u bro.... n :tqvm :tqvm to sifu ocmax for the information n sure this sales person now learning that our aocm mezmbers got a very strong people inside :TQ :TQ :TQ ya lorr.. I think so.. :unsure :unsure <_< maybe he just wanna join this club only to sale that item... :unsure :unsure but now baru realize that in this club there is power rangers to rescue... :TQ :TQ :thumbup :TQ



vash_h	Aug 16 2007, 11:08 AM Post #20
haroldchia.com Posts: 3,055 Group: AOCM Member #229 Joined: February 13, 2006	i hate this kind of salesman. did not do thorough R&D for avanza and claim it works on avanza jst because it works on myvi. somehow, i dont think he did R&D for myvi as well.. if it works well on myvi, then it would work on kembara and avanza.. but then again, the design of kembara, avanza and myvi is so much different.. except the engine.. if he is willing to sponsor, i dont mind letting him run his R&D on my car. i sponsor petrol n time.. kekekekekee..



ongkh	Aug 17 2007, 08:19 AM Post #21
Global Forum Posts: 9,369 Group: Moderator Member #25 Joined: January 16, 2006	u shld offer him such criteria be he run away from us.....



icecube	Aug 31 2007, 01:45 PM Post #22
NEwBIE Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #2,706 Joined: July 22, 2007	Hmm.. What could that be ? Edited by icecube, Sep 6 2009, 11:09 AM.



ppfoong	Aug 31 2007, 03:35 PM Post #23
ADVAnCED MEmBER Posts: 381 Group: AOCM Member #2,422 Joined: June 29, 2007	I don't think it is the right way getting us to be ur guinea pig. Our bro and sis here installed the products in their own avz, proven good, then only recommend the thing to others. And the members can actually see and test the real thing during our TT session, b4 they decide on their own whether to install for their own car or not. Since u claimed that u have it installed in avz and vios, just bring the car to our TT session and let our members test on it. Better still, show us the dyno result. U can always get more than 10 cars in our TT session. Show ur face, demo ur product. I believe we love to try it out, but not in the manner of being ur guinea pig, or not even knowing u in person.



edvanza	Aug 31 2007, 08:17 PM Post #24
QUaLITY SINsIE Posts: 2,776 Group: AOCM Member #23 Joined: January 16, 2006	As a Senior member of the Club, bro icecube, i think your approach is utterly wrong in asking us to 'put our money where our mouth is'. :nono :nono :nono 1stly, you are trying to promote a product and claims that its good and used by X number of users. We appreciate your eagerness to sell. :clap On the other hand, our Club leaders are also trying to protect the members, not so as being conned, but more so as whether the product will contribute significantly to the improvement of our Avanzas. :B :B If you sincerely want to promote your product, you could get those Avanzas fitted with the gadget to join our TT and let members test them out. The final decision should be considered by the members. Hard selling is very appreciated around here. I think most people believe in seeing is believing. :B



Avanza1point5	Aug 31 2007, 09:11 PM Post #25
AOCM 1.5G~uzzler Posts: 460 Group: AOCM Member #1,867 Joined: April 23, 2007	Well said bro edvanza, why does this guy sound so pushy???? and ask people to put money in our mouth instead of proofing it himself if the product is really good???? Gosh, i dont call that hard selling, its more like a bad con job to me. :blink Anyway, Happy Merdeka guys :peace



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