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alxdacrow Posted: Jun 24 2006, 07:01 PM 

:poison  :lol3: .....Well.....what can I say, no harm if this Lower Arm Bar really helps allot. At first I was thinking, URSB & URARB will be good enough liow....no point putting more bars......but after testing bro ricrec's car, I felt a little bit...different only, because his car already MOD and using 17" rims......

When I install the URLAB......WAH LAW!!!! :yipee  :yipee  :sing  :sing ..... the feeling is superb.....I can feel that the car is sooooo stable....wack corners left and right...with fast speed low speed......wow....love the feeling and I'm speechless. It's hard to describe it. Like what Ocmax say, 'you have to feel it for yourself'.

So I was wrong, 2 bars are good but not good enough. UR-SB,ARB & LAB are brothers....or sisters..huhuh....They must always stick together...

Last week, I tested my friend's VIRGIN AVANZA (non member), I was thinking how come his car is so bouncy??? His and my car are using stock abs and stock springs. But how come his car felt so bouncy and lotza body rolls?? Then I remember, that my car got URSB & URARB, thats what makes the big difference.

My opinion, for those who just want their avanza to be more comfort, less bouncy and less body roll, just get UR-SB,ARB & LAB will be good enough. Don't have to change rims or suspension.......For your info, my car is using stock abs,spring,rims and tires.... With these bars...I am already very satisfy with the results....

But if you want more.....( like me :lol:  :lol: ) then change the abs and spring too. :lol3:  :lol3: ...I'm waiting for my KYB to arrive and yet to get Eibach Spring.!! :thumbup  :thumbup

Thank you so much to all the SIfus...and especially sifu Ocmax :clap  :clap

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shellhelix Posted: Jun 28 2006, 11:21 AM 
As bro wills said, Speechless..........love it

1. Cornering - so stabile than before. Its like the other side of the car saying "hey you stop rolling and keep it down".

2. Straight - before this, since i'm using super standard iron rims and a very high tyre, i can feel the car is swaying left to right during slow driving. After installing LAB, almost gone like the mentioned above

3. Comfortability - a lot of improvement since now it rely only to the abs.

That's all guys

- Now starting to think about installing ARB  :unsure:

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alxdacrow Posted: Jun 28 2006, 11:12 PM 
the more and more and more I love UR-LAB.......each day I drive my avanza, each day I love it more........thanks alot bro ocmax for making the LAB alive for avanza....

previously before i install the bar, i have doubts about LAB for Avanza...now when I think back...I wanna laugh..... :lol3:  :lol3:  :lol3:     how silly I was...and I was lucky to be in the 20sets offer price list....

the fender bar & front ARB are not necessary..i guess....3 bars are enough for our avanza....   :unsure:

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wongfeihung Posted: Jun 29 2006, 07:11 PM
I brought my installation forward to this morning and what can I say............ :thumbup SPEECHLESS!! felt the different as soon as the car moved. Now instead of bodyroll when zooming through tight corner, I get 'body slide'. Anyone know where I can get RECARO seat for Avanza? :o Will drive for a few more days to test the effect.  :clap

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wongfeihung Posted: Jun 30 2006, 12:49 PM

If I use the best tyres I'll slide even further :lol3:

This morning had a 60km test drive with the LAB on highways and some winding roads, and I'm vey happy with it. Actually had no intention to install this LAB and it all started as a joke with ocmax but with his 'cunning' tactics, I ended up with the LAB in my car :boo  :lol: My wife had warned me not to fix anything more new 'invention' to the car because of over budget and I secretly installed it with mission impossible :ph43r: This morining when she sat in the car, she felt something different to the car and she was quite sure I have fitted the LAB, and of course I kept on denying. So I asked her to drive the car to see any different and straight away she knew I have fitted the LAB but I just kept quiet and after driving for a while, I asked her how was it and she showed me... :thumbup and  :D and I was like  :sweat and knew I crossed the threshold.  :lol: Why I tell you all this story is to let you know how significant the improvement with the LAB. My son said if fitted with the front KYB abs, the ride will be like SUBARU WRX  :iloveu  :iloveu2
For RM180, you get very much less bodyroll, a much sharper and responsive steering, less undercarriage noise and vibration and of course much better road holding especially engaging tight corners, worth every penny.  :clap  :D

p/s:ocmax, you are lucky the LAB is good if not my wife going to scold you for continously spreading poisons until we 'pok kai' oready.  :lol3:  :lol3:

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rwd Posted: Jun 30 2006, 03:53 PM 
Me too...sorry for sent my baby to install the LAB this afternoon silently..haha ...just cannot wait until Sunday....

I really LOVE the effect...  ....almost want to go up Genting test the new toy already...luckly managed to grab the second last offer set.....
.haha....  Anyway, I still will attend the TT this Sunday....and for those bro don't mind to test my "entry level" Avanza...you are please to.

My suspension setup is = Original Rear Suspension + MB PAD + Original Front Suspension + LAB

Many Thanks to Bro Ocmax and UR for bring in another quality product to AOCM.... 

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sgoldavanza Posted: Jul 3 2006, 10:10 AM 
As usual, I went for my Sunday routine of getting news papers and pumping petrol
Then told myself hey why not shot off to a deserted stretch of road near Giant USJ 1 just to do some slaloms and quick lane changes to get a feel my car's handling BEFORE going to Pandan Indah... so I did a few rounds...

I was too early...10:30 am sudah sampai UR...look see look see then 1 by 1 all came...my car was the 1st one to go up the 2 post and within minutes...sudah beres...

Cepat cepat got into the car and reversed out ....and as soon as the car moved the feel on the steering is sooo different...the wheels and steering feel so weighted and at the aligned themselves back after fisrt turn and second turn...and third...even at such a slow speed... took the car round the few blocks and did some hairpin turns...the feeling is GREAT...

At the sharp turns the rolls were so much reduced...rock steady...it has the BIG car feel now ...came back and showed  :thumbup  :thumbup  :thumbup    continuously to the brothers waiting there...

( then the turn for other brothers to fix theirs and I have the opportunity to take Wong Sifu's car for a spin..ooops...no no no...just a casual slow drive...to feel the Eibach and the KYB Ultra set-up...so much difference ...My car is on ori sping and shocks all round + MB pads...
and then proceeded to the TT sessions at the restaurant nearby...)

As soon as the TT finished, I took Kesas highway all the way to USJ... taking those sweeping curves at 100 km/h to 120 km/h steering feel solid and precise...even with some mid corner bumps...the car regained composure quickly...The car travels like it is on rail...almost...(This is compared to before installing the URLAB)

At straights, there is no need adjust steering slightly like before... can almost auto pilot...

Then reaching USJ and reconfirm by doing a few round of slaloms and quick lane change near USJ 1 again...noticeably reduced body roll at slaloms ... and lane change at the flip of fingers... excellent... :thumbup  :thumbup  :thumbup    

Disclaimers:
I am a layman and don't know about vehicle dynamics... but this is the feel after installing the URLAB...I am not an emplyee of UR ...I will not take any responsibility for the consequences of reading the afore-mentioned post...

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sgoldavanza Posted: Jul 3 2006, 10:37 AM  

Then yerterday evening, I was tarvelling from USJ to Jalan Duta via Federal Highway / Jalan Parliment...from some where near the Muzium I was following at a few cars' distance behind a Porsche Cayenne WDX Y at 100km/h to 110km/h doing some sweeing curves...

then my wife commented "the car still rolls mah"

I said "where got? this is very very good already laa! Wait afterwards you drive you can feel no more rolls liow."

"Hey! I am talking about the Porsche laa.." My wife replied...

"Oh ya ya ya... off course laa...the car so tall and heavy even with wide track can still roll a bit laa..."

My wife drove from Jalan Duta to USJ on the way back... and she gave big  :thumbup  :thumbup  :thumbup  :thumbup    

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alvin Posted: Jul 4 2006, 09:16 AM 
Here is my 2 cents comments :
Suspension : Front all ori. Rear KYB+MBpad
UR : URSB, URARB and now with URLAB

At first I thought with URSB, it should control most of the wobbling by a sharing connection
between left & right front suspension but it only reduce a certain percentage and still
the front wobble does exist.
I am sure Bro Sky will love this because I am testing his recommended front tyre pressure
200 before install LAB which does feel more comfort, less vibration & wobbling....but !
After installed URLAB, I got a shock !  :ghost Wow ! The front tyre seems totaly glued on the road.
It is what every owner claim it to be... :thumbup

Weight : It seems like driving a heavier luxury car with such a light weight bar added.
Steering : It is what some commented. No vibration at all and stable autopilot.
Wobbling : No more from left to right. All bumps are greatly shared by the suspension.
There is a turning corner with uneveness on it near Pisa. I always turn at 40km/h and
the steering vibrate with front tyres jumping on every buldge surface. All that is gone
with URLAB. Highly recommend owners with URSB to install URLAB coz the top and
bottom are almost fused together leaving only the motion of front suspension.

Greatly satisfied and proud owner of the last piece.  :D

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kiasi Posted: Jul 4 2006, 12:54 PM 

alvin

Jul 4 2006, 09:16 AM

Wobbling : No more from left to right. All bumps are greatly shared by the suspension.
There is a turning corner with uneveness on it near Pisa. I always turn at 40km/h and
the steering vibrate with front tyres jumping on every buldge surface. All that is gone
with URLAB. Highly recommend owners with URSB to install URLAB coz the top and
bottom are almost fused together leaving only the motion of front suspension.

agree with u, bro alvin
just went back from KLIA on 6am. when i was going out from KLIA highway to North-South highway, i was driving at 110km/h. the handling is good :thumbup and the steering is very responsive. i think the front suspension works better.

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kiasi Posted: Jul 4 2006, 12:54 PM 

alvin

Jul 4 2006, 09:16 AM

Wobbling : No more from left to right. All bumps are greatly shared by the suspension.
There is a turning corner with uneveness on it near Pisa. I always turn at 40km/h and
the steering vibrate with front tyres jumping on every buldge surface. All that is gone
with URLAB. Highly recommend owners with URSB to install URLAB coz the top and
bottom are almost fused together leaving only the motion of front suspension.

agree with u, bro alvin
just went back from KLIA on 6am. when i was going out from KLIA highway to North-South highway, i was driving at 110km/h. the handling is good :thumbup and the steering is very responsive. i think the front suspension works better.

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tzesen Posted: Jul 5 2006, 12:56 PM 
here's my assessment after installing the LAB yesterday on original setup, when going over uneven road, no more floating feeling, directional stability better, much improved, very very satisfied. 

steering more weighted during drivong and cornering, more when taking turns. Need to upgrade the rear as can feel the rear becoming unsettled while the front is is holding up during sharp turns.

my 2sen worth.

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wongfeihung Posted: Jul 5 2006, 07:17 PM
This morning around 5am, had a chance to test the LAB on the highway, found now my straight line stability is very good and very stable even driving at 130k to 140km/h feel like 110 to 120km/h. The feeling now is like driving a bigger capacity car and when buses overtook me, I don't feel the car sway so much like last time.  When I reach home at around 7am, then only I noticed I had travelled about 230km.

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KAYSOON Posted: Jul 10 2006, 05:50 PM 
AFTER INSTALLING LAB - CORNERING IS MUCH BETTER HANDLING BUT STEERING A BIT HEAVY. HAVEN'T TRY HIGHWAY YET. THANKS SIFU OCMAX FOR RECOMMENDATION.. 

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tzesen Posted: Jul 11 2006, 09:07 AM 
agree, after installing the LAB, the steering feels heavier and the wheels are better planted to the road, very obvious over bumpy roads. driving faster around corners inspire more confidence, but as speed increases, you can feel the rear starting to tilt more and need to ease up on the right foot. The ARB solved the rear roll and can now the car tracks better thru corners. my recommendation is to install one item at a time to see how each item improves the handling, rather than installing all at once