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Home DIYer; Anyone?
Topic Started: Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM (1,615 Views)
sky
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I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks ;)

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ocmax
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sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks ;)

walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor....... :P :D :lol:

The small stone......call buble wash....... ;) normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3..... ;) :D :lol:
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shamkl
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ocmax
Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor....... :P :D :lol:

The small stone......call buble wash....... ;) normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3..... ;) :D :lol:

Wah Bro. OCMAX...you can also DIY your house.....Malaysia boleh ! OCMAX boleh :P
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sky
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ocmax
Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor....... :P :D :lol:

The small stone......call buble wash....... ;) normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3..... ;) :D :lol:

Work is different from interest usually. Those who work with their interest are lucky one!

buble wash? sounds interesting. I though they just pour those stone on top of the about to dry cement to form the top layer? If mix it with cement and the floor are about 3 inches thick then we need a lot of stone!

Do you know what they spray on top surface to make those stone shinning?

cement 1/3 and sands 2/3? Suitable for flooring and stacking bricks? I though wall surface mixture is slightly different?

Thanks bro!
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mk888
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sky
Feb 23 2006, 11:30 AM
ocmax
Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor....... :P :D :lol:

The small stone......call buble wash....... ;) normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3..... ;) :D :lol:

Work is different from interest usually. Those who work with their interest are lucky one!

buble wash? sounds interesting. I though they just pour those stone on top of the about to dry cement to form the top layer? If mix it with cement and the floor are about 3 inches thick then we need a lot of stone!

Do you know what they spray on top surface to make those stone shinning?

cement 1/3 and sands 2/3? Suitable for flooring and stacking bricks? I though wall surface mixture is slightly different?

Thanks bro!

I do a lot of DIY staff at home but the one thing I dare not touch is bricks laying and floor concreting related works. Not only you need the necessary knowledge and skill, if you fail, you have plenty of headache to un-do. At the end, it will cost even more to re-do.

Just my 2 cents thought.
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sky
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mk888
Feb 23 2006, 01:33 PM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 11:30 AM
ocmax
Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor....... :P :D :lol:

The small stone......call buble wash....... ;) normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3..... ;) :D :lol:

Work is different from interest usually. Those who work with their interest are lucky one!

buble wash? sounds interesting. I though they just pour those stone on top of the about to dry cement to form the top layer? If mix it with cement and the floor are about 3 inches thick then we need a lot of stone!

Do you know what they spray on top surface to make those stone shinning?

cement 1/3 and sands 2/3? Suitable for flooring and stacking bricks? I though wall surface mixture is slightly different?

Thanks bro!

I do a lot of DIY staff at home but the one thing I dare not touch is bricks laying and floor concreting related works. Not only you need the necessary knowledge and skill, if you fail, you have plenty of headache to un-do. At the end, it will cost even more to re-do.

Just my 2 cents thought.

Thanks for sharing. If the wall does not play an important role such as supporting the roof then it's fine. I'm aiming for a 2-3 feets wall with some wooden fender as the divider with neighourhood only. Or may be a wall under the staircase to cover it for storage purpose.

The small stone can be applied for gardening such as walk path too. Car porch is still under consideration.
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ocmax
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sky
Feb 23 2006, 11:30 AM
ocmax
Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor....... :P :D :lol:

The small stone......call buble wash....... ;) normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3..... ;) :D :lol:

Work is different from interest usually. Those who work with their interest are lucky one!

buble wash? sounds interesting. I though they just pour those stone on top of the about to dry cement to form the top layer? If mix it with cement and the floor are about 3 inches thick then we need a lot of stone!

Do you know what they spray on top surface to make those stone shinning?

cement 1/3 and sands 2/3? Suitable for flooring and stacking bricks? I though wall surface mixture is slightly different?

Thanks bro!

If you intend to have a 3" layer.....normall use 2" as the base concrete. Then 1" for the bubble wash. You must mix the small stone and sand togther to get an even effect. because if you lay the stone after the screed...it will come out later.

The shining part is paint with Shellac....... ;) :D :lol:

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shamkl Posted on Feb 23 2006, 11:01 AM
  QUOTE (ocmax @ Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM)
QUOTE (sky @ Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM)
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks   


walao......IT man want to do this kaa......afterward your back become mine wor.......   

The small stone......call bubble wash.......  normal mix the cement together then use a sponge to wipe away the top layer of cement so that you can see the stone effect.

Mixture.......not too much cement 1/3.....    


Wah Bro. OCMAX...you can also DIY your house.....Malaysia boleh ! OCMAX boleh  


My work force me to know some of this things..... :P :D :lol:
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TehSPin
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sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

1. For brickwork 1 part cement 3 part sand.
2. For wall plaster 1 part cement 6 part sand - need skill <_<
3. To do pebble wash mix cement and stone then plaster to wall or floor. Let it harden abit then brush out some cement to expose the stone. Clean the surface with sponge.
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ocmax
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TehSPin
Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

1. For brickwork 1 part cement 3 part sand.
2. For wall plaster 1 part cement 6 part sand - need skill <_<
3. To do pebble wash mix cement and stone then plaster to wall or floor. Let it harden abit then brush out some cement to expose the stone. Clean the surface with sponge.

Yeap...this is the right word for it......[size=7]pebble wash[/size] .... :P :D :lol:
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SK
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TehSPin
Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM
1. For brickwork 1 part cement 3 part sand.
2. For wall plaster 1 part cement 6 part sand - need skill <_<
3. To do pebble wash mix cement and stone then plaster to wall or floor. Let it harden abit then brush out some cement to expose the stone. Clean the surface with sponge.

You are the right person to ask since you are from this line ;)
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sky
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TehSPin
Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

1. For brickwork 1 part cement 3 part sand.
2. For wall plaster 1 part cement 6 part sand - need skill <_<
3. To do pebble wash mix cement and stone then plaster to wall or floor. Let it harden abit then brush out some cement to expose the stone. Clean the surface with sponge.

Thanks a lot Sifu TehSPin!

Very informative. I understand that it's not easy and need skill for all this job. Don't worry, I'm not going to build a high wall, start with 2-3 feets fender first, may be ;) Thanks! Ever done some similar job but those are more for fun. That's why I need professional advice for the mixture and guideline here ;)

btw, how come I saw some of the wall plaster mixture with a bit yellowish in color? What do they mix to make it look different from normal cement with sands mixture? Any reason for that ? cut cost?
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sky
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ocmax
Feb 23 2006, 07:54 PM
TehSPin
Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM
sky
Feb 23 2006, 09:20 AM
I'm planning to have some little projects for my house such as build up a wall or some wooden work. Wondering that any Home renovation expect out there could advise the following.

1. What is the mixture of cement to stack up bricks?
2. What is the mixture of cement to paste on wall surface?
3. How to apply those little yellowish, brown, grey color small stone that are very common in some shopping centre. I'm thinking to apply that on the floor of car porch.

Many thanks  ;)

1. For brickwork 1 part cement 3 part sand.
2. For wall plaster 1 part cement 6 part sand - need skill <_<
3. To do pebble wash mix cement and stone then plaster to wall or floor. Let it harden abit then brush out some cement to expose the stone. Clean the surface with sponge.

Yeap...this is the right word for it......[size=7]pebble wash[/size] .... :P :D :lol:

Professional advice sure using correct terms mah? We're not in this line afterall :D Your advice does help a litle too to clarify my doubt for pebble wash. Thanks!
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lcs
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since bro tehSPin on this line, can i get some info about the pound bottom part. the last patch after brickwork n floor. mixture cement with some glue to avoid leakage. how to mixed. only cement n sand wit glue or can add with or without water? how many part sand by how many part of cement? what glue is that? sifu ci tim ci tim...thanks.
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ocmax
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lcs
Feb 25 2006, 09:50 AM
since bro tehSPin on this line, can i get some info about the pound bottom part. the last patch after brickwork n floor. mixture cement with some glue to avoid leakage. how to mixed. only cement n sand wit glue or can add with or without water? how many part sand by how many part of cement? what glue is that? sifu ci tim ci tim...thanks.

What I know is cement glue so called is only tiling work wor......is to slow down the cement to be harden to fast.......correct me if I'm wrong.... :P

Why you need cement glue in the first place....water leaking...??

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lcs
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thanks for yr infor. but usually they use this glue for our toilet floor. planing to DIY my new pound. get quotation from some pound builder. jus a simple type cos 15k above somemore don't have waterfall. i also don't know why jus a simple 4 wall n bottom so expensive :( maybe have to dig hole. :( don't know can do or not :D :D .. so have to get more info before got confident to start. scare leaking after finish. die la.
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TehSPin
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sky
Feb 23 2006, 11:28 PM
btw, how come I saw some of the wall plaster mixture with a bit yellowish in color? What do they mix to make it look different from normal cement with sands mixture? Any reason for that ? cut cost?

Maybe due to the colour of sand. Normall river sand abit yellowish compare to mining sand.
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TehSPin
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lcs
Feb 25 2006, 12:23 PM
thanks for yr infor. but usually they use this glue for our toilet floor. planing to DIY my new pound. get quotation from some pound builder. jus a simple type cos 15k above somemore don't have waterfall. i also don't know why jus a simple 4 wall n bottom so expensive  :( maybe have to dig hole. :( don't know can do or not :D  :D .. so have to get more info before got confident to start. scare leaking after finish. die la.

Ask for waterproofing compound (water proof cement + bonding agent) from hardware shop. Look for brush on type which is easier to apply. Just follow the instruction & enjoy ur DIY. :D
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lcs
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TehSPin
Feb 25 2006, 01:40 PM
Ask for waterproofing compound (water proof cement + bonding agent) from hardware shop. Look for brush on type which is easier to apply. Just follow the instruction & enjoy ur DIY. :D

thanks for yr info..still got some question :P this water proof cement apply after wall plaster together or let it dry first. last layer than only apply this call waterproofing compound. if i going to put tile this layer should apply after or before tile? izzit batter let ppl do ah r u doing renovation for ppl?
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lcs
Feb 25 2006, 02:10 PM
thanks for yr info..still got some question :P this water proof cement apply after wall plaster together or let it dry first. last layer than only apply this call waterproofing compound. if i going to put tile this layer should apply after or before tile? izzit batter let ppl do ah r u doing renovation for ppl?

Another Koi pond in the making ;)
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ocmax
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lcs
Feb 25 2006, 02:10 PM
thanks for yr info..still got some question :P this water proof cement apply after wall plaster together or let it dry first. last layer than only apply this call waterproofing compound. if i going to put tile this layer should apply after or before tile? izzit batter let ppl do ah r u doing renovation for ppl?

Cement must dry only can apply the water proofing Liquid ...some of them just need to paint over the areas you needed.... ;)
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mk888
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lcs
Feb 25 2006, 02:10 PM
thanks for yr info..still got some question :P this water proof cement apply after wall plaster together or let it dry first. last layer than only apply this call waterproofing compound. if i going to put tile this layer should apply after or before tile? izzit batter let ppl do ah r u doing renovation for ppl?

Bro, I have a small pond in my compound where I keep about 20 koi. I designed the pond with very proper filteration system, both mechanical and biological filtration, also incorporating UV light, water features etc. But I dare not DIY the pond and so asked contractor to do. Even so, the waterproofing was not done properly and the first time we tried to fill up the pond, after many hours of running water, the pond still half full. That month my water bill increased by RM300. Now it is ok and has been in use for 3~4 years already.

If you want to DIY the pond, maybe better go for the prefab fiber glass pond, not the concrete pond.
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lcs
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Feb 27 2006, 02:59 PM
Bro, I have a small pond in my compound where I keep about 20 koi. I designed the pond with very proper filteration system, both mechanical and biological filtration, also incorporating UV light, water features etc. But I dare not DIY the pond and so asked contractor to do. Even so, the waterproofing was not done properly and the first time we tried to fill up the pond, after many hours of running water, the pond still half full. That month my water bill increased by RM300. Now it is ok and has been in use for 3~4 years already.

If you want to DIY the pond, maybe better go for the prefab fiber glass pond, not the concrete pond.

bro mk888,
thanks for yr advice. i also don't know i can start do myself or not? :( cos my pond say big not big say small not small have to dig underground 4-5ft. fiber glass limitation is there unless u custom made. i don't wan regret after build have to extend it later due to over growding. how big is yr pound? any photo to share? water bill is a problem.. i plan to use underground water also.
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lcs
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Feb 25 2006, 07:55 PM
Another Koi pond in the making ;)

jus my future plan only. jus my dream only :D :D . no land to dig yet :P
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TehSPin
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lcs
Feb 28 2006, 12:09 AM
mk888
Feb 27 2006, 02:59 PM
Bro, I have a small pond in my compound where I keep about 20 koi. I designed the pond with very proper filteration system, both mechanical and biological filtration, also incorporating UV light, water features etc. But I dare not DIY the pond and so asked contractor to do. Even so, the waterproofing was not done properly and the first time we tried to fill up the pond, after many hours of running water, the pond still half full. That month my water bill increased by RM300. Now it is ok and has been in use for 3~4 years already.

If you want to DIY the pond, maybe better go for the prefab fiber glass pond, not the concrete pond.

bro mk888,
thanks for yr advice. i also don't know i can start do myself or not? :( cos my pound say big not big say small not small have to dig underground 4-5ft. fiber glass limitation is there unless u custom made. i don't wan regret after build have to extend it later due to over growding. how big is yr pound? any photo to share? water bill is a problem.. i plan to use underground water also.

4-5 feet better ask ppl to do. But try to get more quotation to compare & i guess the different will be alot!! <_<
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lcs
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ocmax
Feb 25 2006, 09:47 PM
Cement must dry only can apply the water proofing Liquid ...some of them just need to paint over the areas you needed.... ;)

sifu thanks for yr info. i though u r good in car mod. home diy also can... later TT at my house for DIY pound :D :lol: :lol:
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