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OLD DESIGN Ultra Racing ARB
The new UR-Anti-Roll that we had waited for so long is ready today and we have a few member tested the sample antiroll bar. Those present were eskay, avanzasilver, ed-vanza, kelvinKM and me.
I have selected avanzasilver car to test the UR-Anti-Roll bar today because he has the front URSB and his car suspension is still using original setup.
OK…I’ll jump to the review about the UR-ARB.
It took UR mechanic 1hr to install the UR-ARB because the mounting is quite complicated and it needed to add 4 brackets for the short stroke bar and Bush mounting to get a perfect support.
After the installation the car owner (bro avanzasilver) get the first try. He came back with thumbs up about the UR-ARB and I’m the next.
What I can describe is I can felt the front and rear is more equal balance after added the UR-ARB and even with a high speed turning, the car can easily regain the control. The car surprisingly did not felt bumpier as I expected. It has actually gained more comfort. Overall body rolling is gone. Is a wonderful feeling until our bro doesn’t wanted the bar to take out from his car…..:D
No doubt it will works better with URSB but it will help the 2 point SB user without any problem.
We cannot take the sample unit photo because of patented issue So I have drawn the diagram and hope you guys can understand it…..:D
Where is the ARB
view from rear
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view from front
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Special price that UR given to us is
1. RM380.00 for centre region c/w installation. 2. RM360.00 for others region w/o installation. 3. Market rate RM480.00 w/o installation.
IS the same concept limited unit 15pcs only after that NO MORE OFFER PRICE.
I wanted you guys to know this is not cheap but what I can say is our Original front anti-roll is more expensive then this.
BUT IS HIGHLY RECOMMANDED.
Order list
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Centre Region
1. ocmax - (Installed) 2. ed-vanza - (Installed) 3. n00bi3 - (Installed) 4. KevinKM - (Installed) 5. Eskay - (Installed) 6. avanzasilver - (Installed) 7. wills888 - (Installed) 8. Tehspin - (Installed) 9. lim-kb - (Installed) 10. Kendoz - (Installed) 11. Zanurin - (Installed) 12. thomasllp62 - (Installed) 13. markerman - (Installed) 14. mat6740 - (Installed)
Next week 1. shenmui - (Installed) 2. abangJOE - (Installed) 3. maximus (UR-SB & ARB) - (Installed) 4. wongfeihung - (Installed)
Northern Region 1. cheekk - (Installed) 2. Zhenming - (Installed) 3. alvin - (Installed) 4. vulcan - (Installed) 5. KEN8368 - (Installed)
Southern Region 1. SF_blue - (Installed)
Total Orders: 25 units
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TQ
Members that attended today please comment your point of view. Is up to you how you feel about the UR-ARB.
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KevinKM Posted on 8 Jan 2006, 05:51 AM
my review, your rear body won't buang anymore with original abs and spring, very steady when u do hard corner, your rear body will not swing and it remains steady. *THUMBS UP for this product*
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ed-vanza Posted on 8 Jan 2006, 08:12 AM
Agree with u bro. 100%.
As u know mine oso 100% stock setting and installation. After testing bro. avanzasilver's test installation, wah liau weh, syok man. I also feel so much safer. [/i]
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wills888 Posted: Jan 21 2006, 07:25 PM Senior Member Group: AOCM Members Posts: 28 Member No.: 6 Joined: 16-January 06
To all sifus (Ocmax, SK, Thomas...and all bros at the TT)
My sincere thanks to all, this rear ARB is the most effective handling add-on thus far, but some credit should go to the BMW spring too, no doubt.
At first I had doubt about this bar, the diameter is only as big as a marker pen. But I went ahead & install anyway, since this is the thing I had been waiting for to address the 'fish-tail' problem. Took a drive around the block, I could feel that taking corners is much more surefooted & composed, the yawing & rolling has lessened significantly, the feeling is like driving a saloon, a taller saloon car.
Not only that, the pitching/bobbing felt during highway drive thru wavey road surfaces has also lessened to an acceptable level. May be the BMW spring? I dunno.
Now the confidence has returned (so have the balls).
Bro,
The BMW spring works, today had time to properly assess it, at higher speed it went over road undulation with a much more pliant ride.
The easier method to test is going over those yellow speed breaker which usually gives bone juddering sensation, now with the BMW spring, can barely feel the judder, only the noise is heard whereas some speed breakers where the yellow paint is not that thick, can hardly hear the noise!
The ARB is really good too, it didn't make the car's suspension stiffer & bouncier as some people has suggested it would, if only UR could produce a thicker diamater bar, its even better.
Now given the same stretch of road, I could drive 10~20 kph faster & yet still feeling confident.
A salute to all Sifus who collaborated with UR, provided valuable feedback to UR during the trial run and had resulted in this excellent product.
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n00bi3 Posted: Jan 21 2006, 10:09 PM Group: AOCM Members Posts: 36 Member No.: 33 Joined: 17-January 06
After reading the text msg from wills888 to ocmax, i was more eager to test the car.. did a few hard corners around UR, and the feeling was superb... i was actually used to having the 4 point SB from UR, and with this it actually felt much better..
crossing bumps at the UR area also felt like the car didn't wobble as much as before..
i drove back home using the Kesas Highway and i must say taking long corners at high speed and yet i felt better control over the car as the car didn't roll as much as before..
i did the final testing at the big hair-pin turn in subang jaya further in front of SUBANG PARADE.. b4 this, the car used to felt as though the body would wobble up and down as i took the corner, but now the car didn't tilt as much actually and i have much better control over it..
for that i give two thumbs up.. i dunno if im too excited over it.. but i did feel as though the car doesnt bounce as much as before..
i would add another comment.. just now had late supper with friends, and as they knew i had installed the ARB, they test drive my car by being driver and passenger.. both my friends were amazed at the improvement, once again tested on straights, bumps, u-turn, sharp 90' corners and also the big hair-pin turn after subang parade..
one of them actually drives a toyota vios.. he actually had the impression that the ride would be too stiff once i had installed the ARB, but he felt that it stiffen in the way that the car has better grip and gives a smoother ride especially in corners...
once again, two thumbs up
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thomasllp62 Posted: Jan 22 2006, 09:16 AM Group: Moderator Posts: 713 Member No.: 10 Joined: 16-January 06 The ARB never starts a new sound,not even a ngek! I took of the noise causing GAB abs and replaced with the ori abs before i went and install the ARB. The car's rear body roll have been greatly reduced now i feels like driving a savvy? I tested one before,the lotus tuned suspension is a wonder, holds on to the road like a leach no wonder the MYVI thomasllp62 Posted: Jan 23 2006, 12:26 AM Group: Moderator Posts: 720 Member No.: 10 Joined: 16-January 06 - Quote:
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(kendoz @ Jan 22 2006, 07:21 PM)
bro thomas.. heard you went yesterday can not tahan and instal rear ARB...hehe
Before i install, i have to check it out properly first, the size of the bar ,whether it is strong enough and how it is mounted onto the axle and chassis. I drove to Sri damansara today, felt the bounciness also reduced not much maybe about 10%. It makes the rear suspension more stiffer like i am using a stiffer abs. on the way back thru NKVE after the BKT raja toll at the left exit turn towards Jusco side, normally if with ori abs i dare to corner at 80km/h only, with GAB 90km/h but with UR ARB and ori abs i did 100km/h still stable, my wife make noise already,shhhh! she doesn't know about the ARB (hidden mah!)
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edvanza Posted: Jan 22 2006, 05:35 PM
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OK... after the installation and leaving u guys, i did some test cornering just outside pandan indah.... and along sunway.....
The ARB makes the lefts and the rights of the Avanza grabbing the floor like GLUE...
I JUST LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is one decision i will never regret. And also the yellow line bumps doesn't feel so bumpy anymore..... If u could see me, you would probably see me smiling from ear to ear..
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kendoz Posted: Jan 22 2006, 07:21 PM
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haha... manage to follow bro FLY to Ultra Racing... follow him blindly where he got lost i oso got lost...
11.00 reach at corner mamak.
had light breakfast..
then 11.30 when to UR and met rest of gang...
bro edvanza already ready to roll out...
Thanks to Noobie (stock-manual) and Ocmax (titan-auto) test-run.. it was GREAT and EyE Opening ...
never believe Advanza can take such corners ... without oversteer / understeer...hehe don't know how to diff myself.
after installing mine.. the car really different... really great add-on.
too bad i can't do the front 4-point UR-SB...
my verdict performance > price
next mod - underbody / anti-rust coating - bought ABRO brand rubberized coating.. now sourcing for car wash to borrow ramp.
bro thomas.. heard you went yesterday can not tahan and instal rear ARB...hehe
- noobie and markerman... pls PM me for GP - acoustic insulator for hood.
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mat6740 Posted: Jan 22 2006, 10:16 PM
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Dear all bro. Nice to meet u all member on today is my 1st time on TT & i am late there did not see any installation .My car stilll vergin &just install UR-ARB.At 1st i just thinking to meet u all not thinking to install UR-ARB but when i went there & test drive .i fell that i a big diffrent then my car...more stable . When Yam Cha at Titan place ,i test SK car my mine thinking that is good to install 1 so later on i change my mine, immediately tell sk to get 1 pc for me. I test on a u turn in front of the kelana jaya giant LDP is was more stable then b4. After install i fell very happy with UR-ARB. Thanks all
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KevinKM Posted: Jan 23 2006, 01:57 PM
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here's my review for UR-ARB
Before i install this UR-ARB i already installed the UR-4 point Stabilizer Bar, the performance is amazing. After installed the UR-ARB, went for a test drive the result is trully amazing, my rear body doesn't really swing and my rear wheel is really stick on the road and doesn't really wobble when i do the hard cornering, doesn't really trust the first corner then i try on a few more cornering and it still give me the performance that i wanted. Thanks Ultra Racing for turning my Avanza into a ultimate machine
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z'rin Posted: Jan 23 2006, 09:51 AM
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HI All...
What I can said ...the ARB..really effective... Yesterday I just try my car at Cornering...... Very good maaaa.... Body was stable when I take the corner...then can also pressing petrol hahahahah....Really good.... But one thing my drum break was making noise..need to know others member facing same problem. The brake noise happen when we need to start moving by pressing the break pedal & move to Drive gear. Also happen when need to reverse...can anyone explain why? For performance BETTER than before....
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Boon Posted: Jan 23 2006, 10:48 AM
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Haha.. About my review need not to talk more on it..
Was the person who ask for not to take out the test unit from last testing..
Result was effective, as mention by all other members here.
Two Thumbs Up for the UR_ARB..And Again thanks Ms.Rachel for the good work..
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edvanza Posted: Jan 23 2006, 10:03 PM
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Haro haro brothers & sisters,
My review of the ARB is that it is magnificent!!!! Never felt more rooted to the ground than before when taking korners.
Though i'm not a speedster but occasional would like to speed around bends to check the reaction of the body-roll...... wah,wah, wah..... now no more roll.... semua sudah TEGAK.... chun-chun man....
I have not heard of any additional sound since installing the ARB (unlike bro z'rin) but maybe bcoz i over-enjoyed the feel of the road holding. Occasional screeching of tyre sound maybe but not 'duk or dak or creak'.....
After this installation, it brings back fond memories of driving a saloon car, just higher up in the sky.... overlooking other ketot vehicles
BTW, as a gentleman, i have contacted Ms Rachel of UR to sought approval to post some pics of her in this forum, but she insist that members be there to see for themselves how this SYT looks, not thru pics So, sorry hoh, bro alvin.
Anyway, bro SK have done a more professional job with the camera than myself, so the pics he has posted will suffice...
For those not instal the ARB yet, dont listen to others, just do it with UR.... YOU WON'T REGRET THIS WONDER-BAR (SPRING)
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markerman Posted: Jan 23 2006, 10:56 PM
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Hi, my personal experience on this UR-ARB will be same as all the guys here. Let's see how my wife comment on this product. For your information, my wife just got one month driving experience although she had the license 10 years ago, I let her try on this new enhancement and her comment is why the rear so heavy liau harrr , more stable and like i put a big stone at the back to gain the stability, she used to drive very slow expecially at the corner due to no confidence at the rear, now i can see she drive very confidence and more enjoyment, thanks for the great effort to make it happen.........
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abangJOE Posted: Jan 25 2006, 11:27 PM
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Finally I managed to install UR-ARB today What can I say??!!! Before I enter to the shop, I purposely drive a round the shop lot which never forget my first time sit on brother Ocmax racing car!!! make sure i remember b4 and after feeling... The best part is, the moment I drive the car out from the shop, immediately can feel my rear part of car heavy touch down on the floor... Take the same round around the shop lot...try to be Ocmax racing style... All comments from others member are turn up on my car now!...amazing!!! On my way home...I feel good!!!nanana... I drove down to Anakvanz house, I notice some un-identified sound from rear side...especially after a corner. I would like to try few more days to confirm. As discussed with Anakvanz, he suggest why not put a rubber layer b4 tight the U hook?? so that it can preven rust on touch area...good idea On the way from Damansara to Parlimen has a 360 degree extreme corner, the ARB really tell you how much it can contribute....I loving it. Thanks to Ocmax and UR.
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vulcan Posted: Jan 25 2006, 11:35 PM Senior Member Group: AOCM Members Posts: 14 Member No.: 52 Joined: 17-January 06 - Quote:
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(ocmax @ Jan 25 2006, 11:10 PM) What happen to the PG members.....nobody reply about the ARB.....?? maybe they are still testing on those extreme corners.....
hi all, i'm so called the 5th person to installed ARB at pg. mine was done by 8:00pm today and start to test with bro alvin around some 90 deg corners. conclusion of about half an hour testing reveals the following: 1. Even at 90 deg corners, the 4 wheels are full intact to road. meaning all those drastic rolling that been encountered for passed 1 year are gone for good. SOLVE, hope that it will stay that way for at least 5 years. on the ROI of ARB, i would said it's totally depends on individual owner. if you drive avanza often then putting ARB might help in terms of driving comfort. 2. No nyek2 sound encountered as of reported by sf blue earlier. mine setup is the ori stock abs and spring. however bounciness is still there. it might be reduced but really can't quantified it. only time can tell. thanks for bro alvin for helping out to install CAI incl. fabricating from the raw material that i got from zm earlier. his workmanship is slight above semi pro level for this(believe me by seeing yourself). again my feedback is only based on half an hour of driving so experience it yourself.
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ZhenMing Posted on Jan 26 2006, 12:06 AM
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Installation done on my Avanza... It's good where when take corner... you won't felt been throw away from the car... When gone through the slow down zone (yellow banding on the road)... the impact is less... Felt so nice... Don't tell my wife for this setup... waiting for his comment...
what is in my mind now is to use back the original spring and test if it's equivalent or better... but this project will do after CNY then... everyone busy with CNY ler... and me... wedding ceremony as well... where go time????
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cheekk Posted on Jan 26 2006, 09:15 AM
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Purposely took a hairpin curve at high speed. Road holding is magnificient. Surprised me, in fact. Also have more confident at taking 90 degrees turn at higher speed. Highly recommended if you don't mind the price.
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alvin Posted on Jan 26 2006, 11:47 AM
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First of all we know we can't have both world for example of tuning our rear suspension. Regardless of what we do to our spring or abs, we are actually trying to fine tune it to be in between bumpiness and bounciness of individual taste. The same goes to ARB, it needs some fine tuning of rear suspension to obtain individual taste of comfort. I sure hope bro SF.Blue can find his level of comfort by retuning his rear suspension. I am still seaching for my level of comfort coz with ARB, it felt more towards bumpy. With ARB definately the body roll is cured, no doubts about that.
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vulcan Posted on Jan 26 2006, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (ocmax @ Jan 26 2006, 07:09 AM) Is Open order....please go ahead if the ARB still available.......book now or regret later.....
rhino, the pg dealer for ARB call me up and as you know they still hv 1 unit of ARB to sell. if you're interested please contact the shop and get it otherwise there's another guy by nickname 'soon' claimed to be tocm member is trying to grab it. i never heard of this phantom 'soon' before. do anybody knows him?
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alvin Posted on Jan 27 2006, 08:19 AM
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Hi Bro Vulcan, Remember both you and I test my car over a bump and heard a kudu sound after installed ARB. Yesterday evening, I took out my tyres and found the culprit. My spring has a spot of white paint which means ARB is rubbing against my spring. I had to readjust the ARB a bit and the sametime workout my level of comfort on my spring. I had found my level of comfort by testing different thickness of shim. In the very near future I will design & custom make an aluminium shim which are able to guide (centralise) the spring plus added comfort (slightly away from bumpy). That is the cheapest and nearest comfort that I am happy with coz if you want more that then it will be just as Ocmax said spend some money on it or change a new car.. .. ..
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alvin Posted on Jan 27 2006, 08:54 AM Senior Member Group: AOCM Members Posts: 141 Member No.: 7 Joined: 16-January 06 - Quote:
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(alvin @ Jan 27 2006, 08:19 AM) Hi Bro Vulcan, Remember both you and I test my car over a bump and heard a kudu sound after installed ARB. Yesterday evening, I took out my tyres and found the culprit. My spring has a spot of white paint which means ARB is rubbing against my spring. I had to readjust the ARB a bit and the sametime workout my level of comfort on my spring. I had found my level of comfort by testing different thickness of shim. In the very near future I will design & custom make an aluminium shim which are able to guide (centralise) the spring plus added comfort (slightly away from bumpy). That is the cheapest and nearest comfort that I am happy with coz if you want more that then it will be just as Ocmax said spend some money on it or change a new car.
hi bro alvin, so it's not spring rubber pad issue, good for you as you've find out bu why only happened with 2 persons inside your avanza? is the rubbing only on 1 side? cld you take pics? you remember the the joints that the mechanic adjust to 6.5cm? do you adjust on that too? ocmax, for kl what is the height adjustment that compress the bushing on joints at ARB? is it 6.5cm on both side?
Aha..you did not follow closely...coz central region also have 6.5cm. The rubbing is on one side only. Our sping is spiral design where the middle has a bigger diameter. This bigger diameter touches the ARB when we hit a bump with more car weight. It is also due to the ARB a bit shifted. Never mind, it is a small issue and all settle now.. .. ..
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KEN8368 Posted on Jan 28 2006, 11:02 PM
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After fixed the ARB on Wednesday evening, my mother got accident that night, so have to wait until now only got free time to post my review.
I still using the stock Absorber and spring, after fixing the UR ARB, not only the roll had been reduce ( at least 70 % ), the bounsciness of the rear side also reduce a lot ( at least 50 % ).
So for those members who still using the stock absorber and spring, if you don't have the planning to change the absorber and spring, this UR ARB is a good choice.
1 stone 2 birds anti roll and reduce bounciness
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n00bi3 Posted on Feb 2 2006, 01:46 AM
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the ride to seremban and back from seremban along the highway got better with the UR-ARB..
compared to the trip to singapore when i only had the UR 4 point SB installed, this time it got more comfortable and once again i give two thumbs up
-------------------- Speed Never Kill, Its The Lack Of Speed That Kills.
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abangJOE Posted on Feb 2 2006, 10:25 PM
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Hi all... Just back from Sg Siput...a bit jam at Rawang area due to Radio car make the stupid block...
Talk about the ARB during visiting friends house, I carried 8 adults, No sweat, it make me very confident to take every corner and bump. I'm very satisfied with it. Again, No regret to install ARB!!!
Thanks to AOCM
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